Urias-Orellana v. Bondi, Att'y Gen.
Digest
An asylum seeker from El Salvador received credible death threats, but an immigration judge ruled this wasn't severe enough to count as legal 'persecution.' This case asks who gets the final say on that judgment. The Supreme Court must decide whether federal courts should defer to the immigration agency’s decision, or if they can review the case from scratch, known as de novo review. The petitioner argues that applying the legal term 'persecution' to a set of facts is a question of law that judges must decide independently to create consistent legal standards. The government counters that this is a fact-intensive judgment, requiring the weighing of evidence, and that courts should defer to the agency's expertise. The ruling will determine the power of federal courts to override immigration authorities in life-or-death asylum cases. It will either make it harder for asylum seekers to challenge denials in court or give them a fresh chance before a federal judge.
Key Moments

Justice Kagan framed the legal test as deciding if a threat is 'menacing enough to cause actual harm.' She then characterized the task of applying that rule as weighing evidence to see 'whether these threats were indeed that level of menacing,' concluding, 'that sounds like really weighing evidence to me. That sounds really factual.'
This reveals Justice Kagan's deep skepticism of the petitioner's argument. By framing the core issue as a practical, evidence-weighing task rather than a legal interpretation, she signaled a strong inclination toward the government's view that this is a factual determination deserving of deference.

Justice Jackson repeatedly questioned why a specific statutory provision, § 1252(c), which makes decisions on 'eligibility for admission' conclusive, doesn't simply resolve the case in the government's favor. She noted that asylum is a form of admission and that the statute seems to 'cover the waterfront' in limiting judicial review.
This line of questioning, which neither party had raised, showed Justice Jackson's close reading of the statute and her belief that the text itself might mandate deference, regardless of the 'fact vs. law' debate. It suggests she sees a strong textual basis for ruling against the petitioner.

He proposed an alternative standard of review borrowed from jury verdict cases: 'We take the facts... as given. And we ask whether any reasonable fact finder could conclude that that was persecution as a matter of law.'
This suggests Justice Gorsuch is searching for a middle ground. While still deferential, this standard frames the ultimate question as a legal one for judges, carving out a more defined judicial role than the government's position allows, while stopping short of the full, independent review the petitioner seeks.

He pressed the government on why the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) reviews an immigration judge's persecution determination de novo (without deference) internally. He called the petitioner's point on this 'good' and asked the government's lawyer to explain why something 'treated as a question of law transforms into a question of fact' when it reaches a federal court.
Justice Kavanaugh highlighted a central inconsistency in the government's position. His questioning revealed that he sees the agency's internal procedures as undermining its argument that persecution determinations are inherently factual, suggesting he finds the government's stance logically weak.

Challenging the petitioner's attempt to distinguish the key precedent, Elias-Zacarias, she stated that the facts in that case were also undisputed. The question there was whether those facts met the legal standard, which she characterized as a 'mixed question of law and fact and mostly a factual question.'
This shows Justice Sotomayor's conviction that the controlling precedent is directly on point and favors the government. Her interpretation suggests she sees no meaningful distinction between this case and Elias-Zacarias, making her a likely vote for the government.

He compared the determination of 'persecution' to the determination of 'negligence' in a tort case—a classic question for a jury that is reviewed deferentially. He noted that even though every negligence case helps 'build out a body of precedent,' it is still considered a factual inquiry.
This analogy directly attacks the petitioner's core justification for independent judicial review. By equating the persecution standard with a common-law concept left to fact-finders, Justice Alito signaled that he views this as a standard application-of-law-to-fact question that does not warrant special, non-deferential treatment from judges.
When asked by Justice Gorsuch, the government's lawyer conceded that if there is a dispute about what the legal term 'persecution' means in the abstract, 'a court can resolve that de novo.'
This was a key concession. While the government argued for deference in applying the standard, it admitted that defining the standard itself is a pure legal question for the courts. This creates a potentially difficult line-drawing problem that several justices, particularly Justice Kavanaugh, explored as a weakness in the government's position.
Arguments
Petitioner
The petitioner argues that determining whether an asylum seeker's experience qualifies as 'persecution' is fundamentally a legal question, not a factual one, and therefore federal courts must review it independently (de novo). The facts of what happened to the petitioner are not in dispute; the only question is their legal significance. This process of applying a legal standard to established facts is the core work of judges, who are responsible for building a clear and consistent body of law that defines what persecution means across different cases. Without this independent judicial review, the meaning of 'persecution' could vary wildly, with agencies making contradictory decisions that are both upheld as 'reasonable.'
The petitioner points out that the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) itself treats this determination as a question of law when it reviews a decision from an immigration judge, giving no deference. It is illogical, they contend, for the BIA to exercise independent judgment internally, only to have federal courts then treat that same judgment as a factual finding deserving of deference. The relevant statute only mandates deference to 'findings of fact,' a category that does not include applying a legal term of art like 'persecution.'
Furthermore, the petitioner distinguishes this case from the key precedent, INS v. Elias-Zacarias, which the government relies on. That case, they argue, involved a pure question of fact: the subjective motive of the persecutor. Here, the issue is not about anyone's state of mind but about the objective legal meaning of the events that occurred. Allowing courts to decide this question independently is essential for developing clear legal rules, similar to how courts handle complex issues like 'fair use' in copyright law, ensuring that the law is applied consistently for all asylum seekers.
Respondent
The respondent argues that deciding whether an individual's mistreatment amounts to 'persecution' is a primarily factual inquiry that requires weighing the totality of the circumstances, a task best left to the expert immigration agency. The government frames the question not as a sterile legal definition but as a practical judgment: did the applicant experience 'extreme suffering'? Answering this involves balancing various pieces of evidence—such as the severity of threats against countervailing facts, like the applicant living unharmed elsewhere in their country. This weighing of evidence and drawing of inferences is a classic fact-finding function, analogous to how a jury determines negligence or damages for pain and suffering, and deserves deference from appellate courts.
The government contends that both history and the text of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) support their position. The Supreme Court's decision in INS v. Elias-Zacarias applied a deferential 'substantial evidence' standard to an asylum eligibility question. When Congress later overhauled immigration law in 1996, it deliberately incorporated language from that decision, signaling its intent that courts should continue to defer to the agency. This aligns with the broader purpose of the 1996 law, which was to limit judicial intervention in immigration matters.
While the government concedes that a purely abstract legal question—such as creating a new legal rule for what constitutes persecution—should be reviewed independently by the courts, it maintains that applying an established rule to a specific set of facts is different. The petitioner’s approach, they warn, would improperly transform nearly every fact-intensive asylum decision into a legal question for courts to re-decide from scratch. This would represent a 'sea change' that undermines the agency's role and contradicts Congress’s clear intent to give the agency primary responsibility for these determinations.